The Start Of This Mess

Those who have been by my site often enough know I like to take the easy way out and borrow stuff from my friends and neighbors.

Well tonight I found a soulmate in this type of blogging because Gawfer has borrowed a post from Bushwack who got the stuff he posted from Mrs. Bushwack.

Since it is on the internet I figure it is free posting material as long as you give credit where credit is due. I'm only copying part of it here and I suggest you click the following link for the full posting. Thanks Mrs. Bushwack!

Long before Christ, God spoke to Abraham and established a covenant with Him. Basically, "I will be your God and you will be my people." God promised to bless Abraham with much "seed" or descendants. However, at the time he did not have a son. Even though Abraham and Sarah were very old, God promised a nation would arise from "the promised seed." Now just like most people, Abraham and Sarah thought God was taking too long; so Sarah stepped in to hurry up the process. She let Abraham sleep with her handmaid, Hagar. Hagar became pregnant and Sarah was now angered. She sent Hagar away, to roam in the desert. The unborn child was Ishmael. While in the desert the Lord sent a messenger to Hagar, telling her to return to Abraham and also saying some things about her unborn child. God promised to make him a nation and told a little about his character, "He will be a wild donkey of a man, He will be against everyone and everyone will be against him. He will attack all his brothers." GENESIS 16:12 Hagar returned and gave birth to Ishmael.

When Abraham was 86 years old, Ishmael WAS the first born of Abraham, but he was not the promised one of God. However, God did say to Hagar, Ishmael's mother, that her son would become a nation and have many descendants. The lines of Ishmael, his 12 sons, were the leaders of the ARAB nations.
Ok, so what about God'’s promise to Abraham? When Abraham was 96 years old God gave instructions for keeping the agreement between them. A sign of the covenant, the promise of numerous seed, would be circumcision. Then when Abraham was 100 years old, Isaac was born. And he circumcised him just as the Lord had instructed. Isaac was the father of the 12 tribes of Israel.

Ishmael was not part of the covenant with God, he was uncircumcised, and he was destined to lead a life of strife, as proclaimed at his birth, and be at war with his brothers, the covenant people, the circumcised, and the promised nation of Israel. Since Ishmael was the first born of Abraham, Islamic people consider him the promised one, a prophet of God. In Islamic tradition it was Ishmael that was laid on the altar for sacrifice, not Isaac. Mecca is the place in the desert where Hagar fled when she was pregnant with Ishmael. Therefore, it is holy. The Islamic religion is a flipped or opposite of the Hebrew tradition. Ishmael takes the "hero" role and Isaac is the outcast. Islam is a perversion of the covenant with God.

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Concerning this post Gawfer sez: The bible has been around for quite a while now, and has told us several times and in several different ways what this world is all about, past, present, and future. And there are some of us that sit back and say 'yeah, I believe it'. Well, In my humble opinion, this is clear evidence right before our eyes that what the bible says is true, and I've gone from 'believing' to 'knowing'.

How 'bout you?

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To which prying1 sez: (commented on Gawfer's site) When I was 10 or 11 yrs. old I said to my Mom, "What is a Jew?"

She replied, "The Jews are God's chosen people."

A few moments of thought and I asked, "Why are we bothering to be Catholic?"

I could see right away that it was no sense being Catholic when Catholics were not God's 'Chosen People'.

She explained to me that Jews were born being Jews because they were related to Abraham. We were not so we were out of the loop.

Talk about unfair!

I always felt a bit... Well, maybe a lot of jealousy towards Jews after that.

UNTIL!!!

After I found out Jesus did rise again and He is still alive. I asked Him into my heart. Talk about a reality check. HE TOUCHED ME!!!

Well, reading the New Testament I found out I was grafted into the family of God and in effect had become a Jew through the 'born again' experience. Same as they take a branch from one tree and splice it into another.

I'm not jealous anymore. - John 1: 12-13 -

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Proportional Response

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Typical Lefty Headline

"Israel set war plan more than a year ago
Strategy was put in motion as Hezbollah began increasing its military strength"

Thus saith Matthew Kalman of the "so open minded it gets breezy in here" legion annexed to SFgate.com (San Francisco Chronicle's website)

But if you dig a little deeper into the article you will find this:

Thursday's clashes in southern Lebanon occurred near an outpost abandoned more than six years ago by the retreating Israeli army. The place was identified using satellite photographs of a Hezbollah bunker, but only from the ground was Israel able to discover that it served as the entrance to a previously unknown underground network of caves and bunkers stuffed with missiles aimed at northern Israel, said Israeli army spokesman Miri Regev.

So lets get the headline straight. It should read,

"Hezbollah plans for years to reign terror on Israel"

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U.S.'s Disproportionate Overreacting

Nathon Tabor has this piece he wrote:

What If We Were In The Shoes Of The Israelis?

"After digging under the concrete barricade that had been built in 2004 between Mexico and the United States, a small band of Mexicans, members of a militant separatist group that had infiltrated key parts of the Mexican government, kidnapped three U.S. Border Patrol Agents and scurried them back to Mexico."

"In the last year or so, crudely-made missiles had been coming across the south side of the border, mostly from the hotspots of Mexicali, Nogales, Nuevo Laredo, and Matamoros, and had been hitting U.S. towns and villages from California to Texas. It was the final straw for the current President of the United States who had been trying desperately to balance his War on Terrorism with some sort of accommodation with his country's southern neighbor."

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"The U.S. government had tried for more than a decade to reach some sort of peace accord with Mexico, including uprooting the entire American population of New Mexico from just south of Alamogordo and west to Silver City. Giving up this land to Mexico had been instigated by the Republican President, a former army general and hero of the Vietnam conflict but had caused a year of rioting in many of the American side of the border towns. - ...

Tabor goes on to tell of Venezuela and Cuba funding the Mexican Terrorists and the U.S. finally firing back. - Then the world gets upset at the U.S. -

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Would the appeasement in this fictional story work? Of course not. Just as it hasn't worked for Israel. Many people think that the current conflict between Israel and Hezbollah started when the Israeli soldiers were kidnapped. That is not true.

The key socialistic words of the day are, "Disproportionate" and "Overreacting". The anti-Semitic pushing of the words are pretending the operations by Israel are simply because of the kidnappings... As usual those pushing the words are ignoring facts and history and hope the rest of the world does also.

The Hezbollah would do well to get out of Dodge. They won't because it damages Israel's reputation to have to fight them in residential areas. Hezbollah should run and hide like the scurrilous dogs they are but instead they stay and hide utilizing their methods of concealment behind children, women and old men. This shows that they really are cowards and that they could care less about the INNOCENT CIVILIANS Hezbollah spokesmen are now whining about.

The question has been raised and statements made that this is indeed WWIII. It is not a war of atomic bombs (Yet - Thank God Iran does not have them - Yet) as seen in dreams and imaginations of anyone who lived through the cold war. No Mushroom clouds but instead two sets of ideals.

One set thinks it is ok to blow people up and crash airplanes filled with innocents in their god's name.

The others think that behaviour is a mite anti social.

I'll run with the second group thank you.

Godspeed Israel!


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News From the Backseat

It seems that with all that is going on concerning Israel and the Hezbollah that, at least to me, a lot of news is being put on the back burner. Some important stuff seems to be going under the radar. So I thought I'd post on one that has gone to the edge of the radar screen.

IMMIGRATION:

A real hot topic just a bit ago and it is still moving sideways through our governmental processes. Yesterday Mike Pence was on Hugh Hewitt's radio show as it was guest hosted by Jed Babbin and talked about the No Amnesty Immigration Reform bill he is pushing.

It goes like this:

The Four-Step Solution: No Amnesty Immigration Reform

I (Mike Pence) see the solution as a four-step process:

1. Secure our border.

2. Make the decision, once and for all, to deny amnesty to people whose first act in the United States was a violation of the law.

3. Put in place a guest worker program, without amnesty, that will efficiently provide American employers with willing guest workers who come to America legally.

4. Enforce tough employer sanctions that ensure a full partnership between American business and the American government in the enforcement of our laws on immigration and guest workers.

More can be found on Mike Pence's Website.

prying1 sez: The plan Mike proposed sounded pretty good but (There is always a big but... - PeeWee Herman) I have to wonder about the illegals in the country now. According to the plan they will have to go back to their home country and apply for the program through private agencies there.

Quote - Step Three: Enact a no amnesty guest worker program using private-sector firms

Therefore, the solution is to set up a system that will encourage illegal aliens to self-deport and come back legally as guest workers. Private worker placement agencies that we could call 'Ellis Island Centers' will be licensed by the federal government to match willing guest workers with jobs in America that employers cannot fill with American workers.

U.S. employers will engage the private agencies and request guest workers. In a matter of days, the private agencies will match guest workers with jobs, perform health screenings, fingerprinting, provide the appropriate information to the FBI and Homeland Security so that a background check can be performed and provide the guest worker with a visa granted by the State Department. The visa will be issued only outside of the United States.

The process that I just described to you will only take a matter of one week, or less. That is the beauty of the program. Speed is so important. No employer in America wants to lose employees for an extended amount of time. No worker who is earning money to feed and clothe a family can afford to be off the job for long.

But, an employer faced with a looming requirement to verify the legality of its employees and stiff fines for employing illegal aliens will be willing to use a quick system to obtain legal employees. And, an illegal alien currently employed in America will be willing to take a quick trip across the border to come back outside of the shadows and into a job where he does not fear a raid by Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
Imagine for a moment asking millions of people to line up at the U.S. Consulate in Mexico City to obtain a visa to come to America and work as a guest worker. It would be a disaster. Now, imagine private companies competing against each other to process guest worker applicants and match the applicants with open jobs. Imagine the application of American business ingenuity to this process. That, my friends, is why this program will work. - end quote -

Will it work? I don't know but it does sound better than the system we now have which is to leave the borders open and anything goes.

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Addendum: I thought I might mention that my main concern is the open border and the security problems it entails. How loud will people from both sides of the political spectrum howl if some terrorists come across the border (North or South) and destroy a school full of children?


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Progressive Liberal (?) Comment Brought Into the Light

I received this comment from a Mr. X and it was placed in a thread that was not apropos for the subject. Using Haloscan I was able to move it to a better suited post.

Then thinking about it I saw that this gentleman's (I use the term loosely) comment contained so many errors that it should be brought to the top. I don't mean errors of punctuation or spelling (I changed nothing but I sure did want to...) but his entire premise in the comment assumes so much of two groups of people that just is not true.

I believe the first paragraph "prying1:" was taken from a comment I left on another blog. Sigh! I do not know which and Mr. X did not say. So it goes.

prying1: It is all one group of Islamofacists with different labels on them. They all want to subjugate women, kill infidels and make believe they are doing God's will while bombing & murdering civilians.

God change one word and it sounds like the south.
"It is all one group of evengelicalfacists with different labels on them. They all want to subjugate women, kill infidels and make believe they are doing God's will while bombing & murdering civilians."

change one word and it sounds like Isreal
It is all one group of Zionist facists with different labels on them. They all want to subjugate women, kill infidels and make believe they are doing God's will while bombing & murdering civilians.
except in the case of isreal they skip the subjugating women part.

see? its all in how you look at it and what side your on.
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Mr. X's comment moved to and taken from this post. - There was either an error in his homepage link or his blog has been deleted... - His email might or might not work if you care. I'm too tired to bother.

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Update: Daniel, (a thinking man!) of Fight The Good Fight! saw the reason for this post. Joe (a typical liberal) missed it.) Check the first two comments and you will see what I mean.

Update #2: Thanks to Daniel I found Mr. X and his pitiful blogsite. I left the following message on one of his pro terrorist posts.

Even if Israel allowed all it's citizens to be pushed into the sea the terrorist organizations would not be satisfied. They would continue bombing innocent peoples around the world as they are doing now. Engand, Spain, Philippines, India, Germany (Olympics ring a bell?), U.S., France, Bali (the list goes on...)

What do all these countries have in common with the Jews that the fanatical Islamofacists hate.

They are filled with people the Islamofacists are willing to murder whether through direct or indirect means... That includes each and every person that has read this posting.

That also includes the author of this post.

Answer this Mr. X: - Do you think the terrorists love you and would not kill you because you are on their side?

Hells Bells. They would like nothing more that to strap a suicide vest to you and send you out into the marketplace.

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