Wednesday, May 24, 2006

Jessie MacBeth Story False & Leads to Dave Tikk's Comment

OK - Jessie MacBeth is a phony and a LIAR!

Who is Jessie MacBeth you say?

- Michelle Malkin has the story - quote - He's the latest cause celebre of the anti-war Left -- a "former Army Ranger and Iraq war veteran" who accuses his fellow troops of committing a litany of atrocities against innocent civilians.

--- A 20 minute film produced about him and shown on the Internet has been pulled - No explanation on the page left behind - but it had this phony lefty liar saying,

- "By my hand alone . . . almost 200 people were taken out by me. That's just a rough estimate. A lot of them at close range . . . they would actually feel the hot muzzle of my rifle on their forehead . . . we'd do stuff that would scare them first . . . beat 'em up or kick 'em or hit the wife . . . slaughtering 30-40 people a night sometimes, women and children . . . I was trained, you know, in all the Ranger school, 18 months of that crap . . . I got disappointed in my country . . . but I didn't say anything because I would have been locked up." ---

There's just one problem: According to Department of the Army spokesman Paul Boyce, there is no record of "Jessie MacBeth," a.k.a. Jesse Adam MacBeth, having served in either the Rangers or the Special Forces -- or in any part of the Army at all. Boyce told me Tuesday that a check on MacBeth's credentials came up empty. "At a minimum, this appears to have been concocted" and "some sort of hoax," Boyce said. Special Operations Command and the State Department have been alerted. - end quote -


Being known for 'digging a little deeper' I thought I'd check out what the lefties were saying about "Jessie MacBeth". - Googled with quotes and clicked on the first hit up. - Which brought me to "Dahr Jamail's Iraq Dispatches" who has, at the time of this posting, not updated to show the Jessie story to be bogus. Will he??? I wrote and gave him the link to Michelle's article.

Well from there I wandered about Jamail's blog for a bit, found a very lengthy and verbose article on Democracy in Iraq and came across this comment concerning the post and other comments. Dave Tikk answered the usual talking points continually found on so many lefty blogs so I thought it worth bringing to the light of day.

The following one liners are culled by Dave from other commentor's words.

- quote -

First, I appreciate the website posting my views as they seem different then most others on here. Please know my comments are part of what I hope are a 2 way street in learning from one another. I am sitting in the Persian Gulf trying to make sense of all this, especially those of you who are critical of what is happening in Iraq with respect to America's involvement. Below I will post some responses to the above comments to allow you to see how the other side thinks with the hope that some of you will respond back so that I may better understand you.

-"It seems to me that the United States has gone from being an exporter of democracy and freedom, to becoming the pimp of so-called democracy and freedom."

I say to this; If not the US then who? The former Soviet Union? Their system failed. How about the Iranians? They too have a failing economy. How about we let the Iraqi's do it themselves? They allowed Saddam to rule them for the last few decades and he killed between 1 million - 6 million of his own people. The US is the only country in the world that has both the ability and guts to go into a place like Iraq, arrest the murdering dictator and kill two of his equally evil sons and then make an attempt at securing the country so they may have a free election. Granted, not all this was done perfectly but I fail to see anyone else, except for a few coalition countries, making the attempt. The alternative was to allow Saddam to go on doing what he was doing. Again, we found no WMD, but aren't killing several million of your own people a WMD?

-"Jeffersonian? Hardly. But get a few people to get purple on their fingers, wave it in front of a camera, broadcast it on CNN, and ......voila!!! you've got Bush-style "democracy.""

To this I say; I understand there is a slant of propaganda from the US Press by doing this, but let's not forget, this is the same press that shows a car bomb, an IED, or a suicide bomber and calls it a "National Insurgency". Media call those isolated events "a quagmire of chaos". Sorry, several million more voted then the few thousand that blow things up. I take this as lessen for both sides. Don't believe what you see on the news. They will sensationalize anything to make their ratings look good. They are not sensationalizing voting or car bombers for our benefit, but for their own pockets.

-"It is shameful how Americans have forgotten, or perhaps never knew, what the word means. They don't know, or perhaps never knew, what "freedom" means."

I have just one comment here. How many people tried to defect to Iran, France, North Korea, China, Iraq, Cuba, or any African Country in the last 50 years because they were seeking freedom? Several million tried to enter the US because they all know where true freedom is. What they fail to see is that freedom comes at a cost and is hard work. The US system is not nearly perfect and has huge gaps in consistency at times, but it is the best thing out there, otherwise why do we have so many trying to cross our borders?

-"Not all are asleep to the growing lies and corruption that are destroying the fabric of all our forefathers stood and fought for. I believe a breaking point lies ahead and the real face of the Bush people will be exposed."

Who are you talking about? 52% of those who voted voted for the President. The other rest either didn't vote or voted for someone else. The "real face of the Bush People" belongs to more then 50% of the country. What "fabrics" are you referring to that our fore fathers stood and fought for? Religious freedom? Freedom of the press? Freedom to pursue your dreams? News flash.....There was none of this under Saddam and if someone like Zarquawi (forgive my spelling, no offense intended) is allowed to flourish, he will chop your head off unless you do exactly what he says you should do. Please enlighten us all on what freedoms the Iraqis had before the US showed up.

-"Bush's quote, "the survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands," indeed has several interpretations. To me the statement sounds like a threat - an echo of the "either you are with us or against us" rhetoric."

You are exactly correct. This is a threat and one I hope we all back up. Because what you forgot was "those that are against us", fly fuel and passenger laden aircraft into buildings and kill people in America's back yard. North Korea, Iran, and China would like nothing better then to set up "indoctrination camps" in downtown America and do it at the expense of your head on a block if you don't attend the "meeting". People in those countries who would do us harm deserve to be talked with first, and when they don't listen, fail to give and take, and start blowing things up in Washington, DC, and New York, we (America) needs to make some threat and then, if required, back up those threats. Iran, China, North Korea, and the former Soviet Union all noticed the strength and precision of the US Military and will be more then happy to step up to the political forum to discuss our differences rather then resort to military action, terrorist acts, conventional war, or nuclear war.

-"Bush's statements sound to me as if he is threatening the citizens of the US if they do not support the war in Iraq."

Again, 52% of the voters voted for him. The entire US Military is volunteer. No one defects to Cuba. These things happen because no one feels threatened. If you feel threatened then I would say you are either misinformed or have no back bone so get out and vote for someone who doesn't threaten you.

Ok...I'll shut up now. Please give me constructive criticism on my thoughts. I only ask you base them on facts and with the intent to make the world a better place....Dave

Posted by: Dave Tikk at February 1, 2005 08:50 AM - end quote -

Unfortunately Dave Tikk's only contact point was an email address that is no longer functioning - He does mention sitting in the Persian Gulf on February 1, 2005 - Doing a Google Search on the name comes up with one hit, the page this was pulled from... Which makes me think the name was a pseudonym. The name might very well be phony!

Hmmmm. - Jessie MacBeth is a phony!
Hmmmm. - Dave Tikk uses a pseudonym (Phony???)!

One from the left. - One from the right.

Which one would you trust with your wallet or car keys?

Better yet. Which would you trust with your life?

I'll take the one that was sitting in the Persian Gulf thank you.

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